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5 women to graduate Air Force Academy - Israel News, Ynetnews

Seeded on Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:14 PM EST
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Record number of women cadets expected to complete prestigious course next week.

No fewer than five women are expected to complete the Israel Air Force Flight Academy course next Thursday – the highest number of women to ever graduate the army's most prestigious course.

The five women, along with 163 other flight academy graduates, will receive their wings in a ceremony attended by Defense Minister Ehud Barak, IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz and Air Force Commander Major General Ido Nehoshtan.

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IDFeb89

Well done!

  • 6 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:24 PM EST
UNA_Lion

Are females in the Israeli military allowed to wear their hair down, as the photo suggests?

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:50 PM EST
bifrostExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Will they have to sit in the back of the airplane while flying over Mea Sharim airspace?

  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:53 PM EST
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IDFeb89

bifrost,

That's all you got? pretty poor effort. In any case, I'd like to see one of those Mea She'arim idiots move them to the back of a bus. in fact, I @!$%#ing dare them to try. now that we got that out of the way, anything of substance, and on-topic to add?

  • 6 votes
#2.3 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:11 PM EST
IDFeb89

UNA_Lion,

Flexible rules for a good photo..

  • 4 votes
#2.4 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:19 PM EST
I'm Ringo

UNA, they're wearing flight helmets. Hair is worn down for flying.

  • 4 votes
#2.5 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:22 PM EST
UNA_Lion

Thanks, Ringo. Didn't know that. Female aviators in the Army have to wear their hair up.

  • 3 votes
#2.6 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:33 PM EST
I'm Ringo

Have you ever actually seen an army pilot wearing her hair up for flight? I've seen them wear their hair down, but I've never seen one wearing her hair up.

  • 4 votes
#2.7 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:52 PM EST
UNA_Lion

Yes. Every time I've seen a female Soldier in any uniform at all, their hair was up, unless it was short enough to be worn down (to the bottom of the collar as far as I can recall). Can't speak for other services.

  • 3 votes
#2.8 - Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:58 AM EST
I'm Ringo

Very odd that anyone would try stuffing it up under their helmet, it wouldn't fit properly at all. I've only seen women wear it down, and even in pictures, female pilots all have their hair down under the helmet.

  • 4 votes
#2.9 - Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:53 AM EST
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pjwbur

Woo hoo! Well done, ladies! And to the Israeli air force, too! There you go... democracy and universal sufferage in action!

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:34 PM EST
krishna-167929

Woo hoo! Well done, ladies! And to the Israeli air force, too! There you go... democracy and universal sufferage in action!

True.

And its even gone beyond Jewish women-- not long ago an Arab woman became the first female Arab combat soldier in the IDF!

“Look at the beret,” says Elinor, smiling from ear to ear, showing off the bright green beret that she earned after completing the trek which is part of her combat training in the Karakal Battalion. Her excitement is accompanied by a new historical precedent, since Elinor is the first Arab female combat soldier in IDF history.

Cpl. Elinor Joseph was born and raised in an integrated neighborhood of Jews and Arabs in Haifa, but attended a school in which all her classmates were Arab. She later moved to Wadi Nisnas, an Arab neighborhood where she currently lives. Despite the fact that she would always wear her father’s IDF dog-tag around her neck from when he served in the Paratrooper’s Unit, she never thought she would enlist.

(LINK)

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:49 PM EST
Buzz of the Orient

Krishna, wasn't that link about the first Arab Israeli IDF combat soldier seeded on Newsvine? All I can say is "What a woman!!" She is an amazingly wonderful example of humanity.

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Sat Dec 24, 2011 6:26 PM EST
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IDFeb89

Inflammatory derail, deleted.

  • 6 votes
#3.4 - Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:12 PM EST
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larrrs

Congrats soldiers and may G-d speed you in your endeavors!

  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM EST
Buzz of the Orient

Good luck and Godspeed to the couragous women of the IDF.

  • 4 votes
Reply#5 - Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:32 PM EST
krishna-167929

Krishna, wasn't that link about the first Arab Israeli IDF combat soldier seeded on Newsvine?

You might be right-- i will look for it.

  • 4 votes
Reply#6 - Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:10 PM EST
krishna-167929

I found it.

Actually there were two-- one about the many Israeli Arabs in general who wanted to serve their country by joining the IDf. And then there was a seed about the first Arab woman who volunteered to join the IDF.

1. Arabs Fighting for Israel
2. First Female Arab Combat Soldier in IDF is Proud to Serve Israel

  • 5 votes
#6.1 - Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:16 PM EST
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krishna-167929

I was wondering if any of the Arab Bedoium trackers are Muslims.

Many of the trackers are Bedoins.

And there are many non-Bedouin Arabs who volunteer in the IDf.

And why not?

Both in terms of political freedom as well as economic iopportunity, life for most of them is better in israel than it would be in most Arab countries!

Here's another example:

Muslim Arab Officer Proudly Serving IDF

Lt. Hesham Aborea, first Muslim Arab officer in the IDF : ''War does not differentiate between Jew and Muslim; we all live in Israel''. P

Lt.Aborea enlisted in the IDF as a way to help his own Arab community. "The IDF is a strong, challenging, non-discriminatory army, and is a great supporter of human rights."

(Link)

  • 4 votes
#6.3 - Tue Dec 27, 2011 1:23 AM EST
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