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Jerusalem Police District chief starts cracking down on ultra-Orthodox lawbreakers - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

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Niso Shaham demonstrates he is putting the relations between the police and all the ultra-Orthodox to the test, not only the extremists who have acquired tremendous influence in Jerusalem and Beit Shemesh.

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Now there are also deeds, including about 100 arrests made in the ultra-Orthodox neighborhoods since May. Last week, members of the National Committee to Save Needy Families were arrested on suspicion of perpetrating scams and subversive activity rather than charity work. Shaham demonstrated he is putting the relations between the police and all the ultra-Orthodox to the test, not only the extremists who have acquired tremendous influence in Jerusalem and Beit Shemesh.

Better late...

  • 8 votes
Reply#1 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:09 AM EST
Squidward

It is better late. let's see if this really stops the crazies.

  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:46 PM EST
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IDFeb89

In the past these extremists were called Naturei Karti (Aramaic for Guardians of the City); today they are called Sicarii, after the Jewish "dagger men" of the period just prior to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 C.E. The 1983 pashkevil pairing Hitler and the police commander was ordered at a print shop; today it comes from a home computer and an email address. However, the most dramatic difference between the two eras has to do with the current internal ferment within the ultra-Orthodox community.

Yeah, that's them. so called Jews against Zionism, Naturei Karta (same @!$%#, different suit) are in fact the Sicarii extremists. amazingly, I've seen a few on the Vine reference them recently to try and make a point against Zionism, not knowing obviously who those guys really were...

  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:16 AM EST
Uthaclena

A religious fanatic is a religious fanatic no matter the flavour of the religion. They all seem to believe that their have been empowered by their deity to act as its temporal enforcers. They all need to be fought as the primitive bullies they are.

  • 5 votes
Reply#3 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:38 AM EST
IDFeb89

Uthaclena,

A religious fanatic is a religious fanatic no matter the flavour of the religion.

Some are worst than others. generally speaking, though, agreed.

  • 5 votes
#3.1 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:22 AM EST
krishna-167929

A religious fanatic is a religious fanatic no matter the flavour of the religion. They all seem to believe that their have been empowered by their deity to act as its temporal enforcers. They all need to be fought as the primitive bullies they are.

That's really quite an over-generalization.

The Amish, for example, are certainly pretty excessive in their religious views-- I would definitely call them "fanatical" in their religious views--and practices! But as far as I know, they aren't into committing atrocities against "non-believers".

  • 3 votes
#3.2 - Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:19 PM EST
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Buzz of the Orient

I see that there is some effort now being put to control the ultra-Orthodox fundamentalist fanatics, which can only be beneficial to Israel.

  • 4 votes
Reply#4 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:31 AM EST
Rodney-889389

Glad to see he didn't let any grass grow under his feet...you could measure that response time with a calendar.

  • 5 votes
Reply#5 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:55 AM EST
Buzz of the Orient

Dr Araway's father told her when she was a child: "Small steps", and she grew into a genius radio astronomer. Carl Sagan

  • 3 votes
Reply#6 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:16 AM EST
IDFeb89

More importantly, in my view, is the following -

At about the same time, a group of Sicarii attacked a busload of ultra-Orthodox children with special needs driving down Mea She'arim Street in the capital. There were no physical injuries but some of the children suffered prolonged psychological trauma, which led representatives of the ultra-Orthodox public to realize that their internal institutions are not enough. They demanded, in no uncertain terms, that the police intervene and do what no rabbi dares to do: suppress the fanatics.

They're finally seeing their crazies for what they really are, asking for help in dealing with them. as Buzz stated, sometimes it takes a lot of small steps to reach certain points. in particular, with respect to complex situations...

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#6.1 - Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:23 AM EST
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